How about a "God" who commands the slaughter of entire nations including the innocent children, babies and even the buns in the oven? Is this not a mass murderer?
LOL. Commanding the slaughter of innocent babies is not murder. I love it.
a necessary thing, as without it they must reject paul, the author of most of the NT, and likely true founder of the gentile "christian" church?
There are alot of similarities between how Hitler & Hussein ran their countries, including their acts of genocide, attacking every country around them, & horrible accounts of torture & mass murder. The only differences are 1. Hitler was more successful than Hussein & 2. To appease the "Keep America Weak" contingent, America gave Hitler alot more room to carry out his vicious & horrible acts than we gave Saddam (that is to say, we learned from our mistakes from our experience dealing with mad men in the past & used that experience to prevent greater atrocities from happening).
Is there really no situation whatsoever in which America has the right to get involved in foreign affairs to either protect our country from things that are happening now, OR prevent other things that seem most likely to happen down the road? If you think America does have the right to take action (proactive or otherwise) where would you draw the line.
The idea that Iraq’s economy was great before we went over there and ruined it is preposterous. They made a lot of money from the sale of oil (and not much else) and almost all of it went into their military and used to attack their neighbors, or into Saddam’s pocket so he could build new palaces, or bunkers, or fancy car’s for his sons. We have pumped billions of dollars back into their economy and that money would show greater results except there are still so many terrorists loyal to Saddam that they blow their country up on a daily basis requiring us to spend even more money to put the country back together.
There is an old saying I bet everyone has heard a million times that goes “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.” What exactly do you say one someone tries to fool you a thousand times over a 12-year period, and then people are mad when you do something about it? Shame on America’s educational system?
I would understand if a country wanted to build a nuclear weapon to protect themselves against other nations that had one. I wouldn’t be happy if they said they were going to build it specifically to use it against us or one of our allies particularly right after they attacked one of them – and were unprovoked and unjustified in doing so. If you witness a murder and then the murder turns to you and says, “you’re next”, I doubt you will accept an offer to go for a moonlit stroll. What I meant by being proactive was not that just because we don’t trust someone we should do something aggressive just in case they ever decide to do something against us, but rather to express the idea that if I was stuck down a dark alley with no other way out except to try to get past a guy who was loading a gun and threatening to shoot me as soon as he was done, well I would do whatever I could do to get past the guy and not get shot even if I had to knock him down in my attempt to save my own life.
From reading the extremely anti-American posts that I have seen on this site over the last few months, I get the impression that many people on here believe that it is a much greater “crime” to defend yourself (or others) from terror, torture, murder, or God knows what else, than the crimes of whatever actual horrible things are being done towards you (or someone else). Should we really stick our head in the sand and say “well as long as I don’t see a threat in my hole, I am ok? Does that really protect us from anyone sneaking up from behind to kick us in our big feathery arse?
Saddam Hussein had twelve years to prove he had stopped trying to build a nuclear weapon (which he admitted publicly that he’d use as soon as he was successful) after we had undeniable proof leading up to the first war that he was trying to build (&/or buy) one as quickly as he could. He had missiles that were powerful enough to carry nuclear warheads and hit countries as far away as Israel (even if you don’t like Israel, the point of this is that the distance his missiles could reach was expanding as was the number of things he could do with them) and he was continuing to try to advance his technology right up until the day the second war started. He made continual threats against us. He financially sponsored terrorism in other countries.
He committed acts of genocide against the Kurds and did all sorts of horrible things against his own people. He had stockpiles of Serin and mustard gases (chemical weapons), which we found after the second war began, and some of them have been made into IED’s and used to attack us even after he was out of power. He continued to express hatred towards Kuwait every since we made him give their country back and would have attacked them again in a second if we left. In our defense of them, our navy pilots were attacked by missiles every day for 12 years after the end of the first war.
By proactive, I mean, he was threatening us and attacking us from his side of the dark alley. It’s a good thing we didn’t wait for him to load his gun (increase the range of his missiles well enough to hit us) before we stopped him from doing what he promised us he would do.
I have noticed lately a plethora of random mass murders on innocent victims. I realize that these things happen, and have happened historically. However, people with knives in China attacking innocent unknowing victims, whole families are wiped out, by one sole family member before committing suicide, not to mention Columbine; seem to emote an echo of "it’s happening again??? . These kind of murders seem synonymous with a kind of trend. Could social, political, and economic, strife cause this problem . I wonder on a time line when did these things statistically happen more so, than maybe other decades, or centuries (if historically legit records exist).
I’m talking about random mass murders in society outside of war, politics, genocide.
Christianity murdered more than 60 million Africans over 3 centuries in the African Slave Trade, which followed the earlier Crusades, followed by the minute amount of 6 million "Jews" murdered by the Nazi Messiah, Adolf Hitler.
Now there is a Trinity, three Christs, of two British Commonwealth Prime Ministers and a President of the USA, who are following up the Crusades, with the use of a heavily armed "Jewish" State with WMD’s, involved in a plot to murder Muslims Worldwide, in an attempt to get rid of the Quran, which is the same Revelation that Adolf Hitler hated, when it was in the hands of the Muslim Israelites as the Torah, but which has been finalised by Allah, Glorified and Exalted be He, and now in the hands of Muslims Worldwide.
The Pope is demanding mercy for Indonesian Christians on Death Row in Indonesia, while he ignores mass murder in Lebanon.
The Pope cannot save the Trinity of Three Christs from what Allah has prepared for those who make mischief on Earth.
You seem to have lost the point. I am not begging for mercy, I am just saying that Christianity will never win, not even when they use the murderous Jews who Jesus called murderers in the Bible in John 8:44.
Muslims do not fear death because they want to meet their Lord, but Christians want to go to Heaven but they do not want to die because they know "there aint no Jesus", and that they will be marshalled into Hell by their God, Satan, and Zeus.
The Pope is a confessed hypocrite and failed when he declared the Shroud of Turin a fake in 1988. He should have spoken more of the truth and declared Christianity One Big Hoax.
Benedict, like John Paul, thinks he is a Jesus superstar, as if he is high on what Bob Marley and Peter Tosh smoked, but what does a man who gives up his manhood to Satan do with two balls when "he dont need them" and he cant ever feel love since he refused to be part of the human race by his own choice, no wonder gay marriage is permitted.
follow it? (Noah and the ark=mass murder on a planetary scale,kill your son to show your faithful to me=sadism, have my kid killed to be okay with y’all=child killer). Why does anyone follow this monstorous psychotic evil?
In reading the christians answers–they boil down to the same logic an abusive husband uses–YOU MADE ME BEAT YOU!! And the "brussel sprout" argument has no merit–for in the xtians on book in genesis–it says god created man in his image–and later on infers that after eating of the tree man had the same ability as god to understand–therefore your mythical god was quite cognizant that he was killing intelligent beings patterned after himself–yet another psychotic aspect of this monster.
I’m reading the Torah and I just got to Exodus. I believe it is the same in the Bible. My question is why doesn’t God just make the Pharaoh be nice and let the Israelites go? Instead he ‘makes’ him stubborn even when all kinds of people die? How can religious people claim to be peaceful and right when the leader (God) kills people left and right? Moses just sits back and lets God a$$ rape the Egyptians, I understand they weren’t on friendly terms but why didn’t he just take the Israelites and split if God was going to make Pharaoh follow him anyways? God wanted everybody to know he existed by mass murder instead of, you know, kindness. He could have just gave them health, money, and happiness… but noooo he has to kill somebody in every house. WTF? How can people still believe in such barbarous things?
1) Religious people explain your God’s actions to me.
2) Atheists explain to me why they believe this ignorant savagery.
Pharaoh didn’t commit a crime to God. God forgot about the pact he made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. That’s why it says in Exodus 2.24: "God heard their moaning, and God remembered His covenant with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob."
In order to REMEMBER something you have to FORGET it first!
Based on the logic of: "He made us, so he could do whatever he wants to us."
So if my kids aren’t getting along, I could just kill one of them because I created them right?
So abortion (baby murder) is okay too right?
I’m sure I’ve killed thousands of ants on purpose in my lifetime, that in human terms would be mass murder, genocide by some. So, if all creatures are living, and God created all these creatures, isn’t killing thousands of ants the same thing as killing thousands of humans? Keep in mind these murders were not for survival, but rather just, I wanted them out of my house. And so if you think it’s irrational to go to hell for killing those ants, why is it rational to go to hell for killing humans? Even thousands of humans. Sure you could bring up the arguement, the universe was made for us, and so if you kill another of the "most supreme creation by God, you should go to hell. But was it really made for us? Out of the 200 billion + galaxies in the universe, there is an almost 100% chance that there will be another race equal to or smarter than us, that are not human. Why should we be so egotistic that we think the universe was made selectively for us?
The crimes of atheism have generally been perpetrated through a hubristic ideology that sees man, not God, as the creator of values. Using the latest techniques of science and technology, man seeks to displace God and create a secular utopia here on earth. Of course if some people – the Jews, the landowners, the unfit, or the handicapped – have to be eliminated in order to achieve this utopia, this is a price the atheist tyrants and their apologists have shown themselves quite willing to pay. Thus they confirm the truth of Fyodor Dostoyevsky’s dictum, "If God is not, everything is permitted."
Whatever the motives for atheist bloodthirstiness, the indisputable fact is that all the religions of the world put together have in 2,000 years not managed to kill as many people as have been killed in the name of atheism in the past few decades.
It’s time to abandon the mindlessly repeated mantra that religious belief has been the greatest source of human conflict and violence. Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history.
WRY YOU TRY GOING AWAY
Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
I posted a similar question earlier and sure enough some people wanted to get technical. lol So I will elaborate.
You have Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, Jimmy Jones( cult leader responsible for the mass murder of over 900 people which was the greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the September 11, 2001 attacks.)
http://www.mrgoodman.com/zodiacsign/zodiacsignsofearth.html
^^^ Up there is a link. Go to the "Faults" subtitle in this Taurus description link. It is in bold letters. In that sub title, you will notice it says how Taurus people "would like to kill", even over the slightest things. it also says how those born under this sign would like to "Those born under this sign would like to dominate the world".
Here is another paragraph of the link: "When they become enemies they are the most bitter and relentless of the whole twelve signs. Almost all persons born under Taurus possess some kind of physical medium-ship, and are quite apt to be found among Spiritualists who deal in phenomena. Their clairvoyant gifts are usually very marked, and so is the power of independent slate-writing and table-tippings. They feel the minds of other people and know their thoughts."
^^^ Adolf Hitler fit that paragraph to a tee. So did Jimmy Jones. Much of Jone’s power was obtains through a Spiritual allure. As for Hitler, he obviously had some innate ability mentally connect with the mass to have even garnerd that kind of power and notoriety.
Here’s another line from that passage: "Taurus people should avoid all stimulating food and drink. Many murderers are found among the men who inflame their native passions by the use of alcoholic stimulants". And another :"They have great power of endurance, and are natural conquerors".
Now mind you, I realize Not ALL Taurus people are going to go out and genocide, kamikaze bomb or mass murder entire nations. haha That would be ignorant to automatically assume so. I actually think Taurus is one of the more over looked and underestimated signs when it comes to power and raw abilities to make things happen. But it is also reality that most of the worlds notorious dictators and murders than usually come to mind in an instant is Taurus. And for obvious reasons.
Why do you think this is though? What factors in a Taurus life would bring them to those extremes?
aav, I love how your dumbass doesn’t even answer the question.
omnipwn, good points, but still doesn’t not disprove my point of Taurus showing a pattern of dictators who conducted mass murder. I know not EVERY mass murdering dictator is a Taurus. Obviously. But until someone lines up the tallies and proves that another sign has more produced more dictating mass murders, Taurus will be the answer. Anyone can pull a dictator form any of the signs. But it’s about what sign shows more of a pattern of following that path.