Serial Killers

Obviously, depending on how rich someone is, one might not necessarily have to carry out the actual murder. Assume one would still be considered guilty if they payed the assassin, though.

In our "civilized" "1st-world" society (basically meaning some corrupt village leader dictator is not in charge of us), how much money does it take to get away with murder?

I don’t want any philosophical statements on abortion, cooking or eating babies, so restrict this to the killing of adults (people over the age of 18).

I would think there has to be a price on the system. What do you think the cost would be to cover up your tracks (by paying people off either to lie or to just find you innocent; making the murder actually untraceable to you; or, doing something else so that you are not convicted in the end)?

Assume it was not a mass-murder– just a murder of one single, human being. Assume nothing extra happens to the person that would cause people to want to turn you in more or want more money (as in, the body would not be mutilated, raped, or degraded in some other way before or after the death).

Or, do you think there is no price that could get someone off the hook for murder? If so, that’s fine, but could you please give some reasons why you believe the system is infallible in this regard?

I am not talking about the "perfect judicial system", I am talking about the actual one in the actual world. What do you think the price is/ would be?

Obviously, depending on how rich someone is, one might not necessarily have to carry out the actual murder. Assume one would still be considered guilty if they payed the assassin, though.

In our "civilized" "1st-world" society (basically meaning some corrupt village leader dictator is not in charge of us), how much money does it take to get away with murder?

I don’t want any philosophical statements on abortion, cooking or eating babies, so restrict this to the killing of adults (people over the age of 18).

I would think there has to be a price on the system. What do you think the cost would be to cover up your tracks (by paying people off either to lie or to just find you innocent; making the murder actually untraceable to you; or, doing something else so that you are not convicted in the end)?

Assume it was not a mass-murder– just a murder of one single, human being. Assume nothing extra happens to the person that would cause people to want to turn you in more or want more money (as in, the body would not be mutilated, raped, or degraded in some other way before or after the death).

Or, do you think there is no price that could get someone off the hook for murder? If so, that’s fine, but could you please give some reasons why you believe the system is infallible in this regard?

I am not talking about the "perfect judicial system", I am talking about the actual one in the actual world. What do you think the price is/ would be?

first of all, in my opinion abortion is not murder, the fetus is not alive. it has the POTENTIAL to be alive and living but it is not. it is merely a mass of single cells (depending on the trimester). you must remember that humans are multicellular organisms.

there is a separation between church and state. no religious reasonings should be used to come up with a law.

im all for abortion, im not a religious nutter, the thing i like about the abortion is that you have it by choice! no one is forcing you. (which is sad in my case, cos i cud have forced my ex wife to abort her ginger children).

ever seen the monty python sketch "every sperm is precious?"… does that mean millions of potential babies are being washed down the toilet and spat out all over the floor… WORLDWIDE (who cares, we make 3 million sperm a day…get over it).

*sorry… no joke this time, but i find serious topics like this funny anyway
*abortion isnt murder… it has been proven! haha in your face pro lifers!

How many mass murders have been committed by men so far this year??

Here are a few that have happened in America this year. Three occurred withing the past week.

http://news.aol.com/article/mass-man-kills-2-sisters-but-police-save/403097
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gSb45bdmagfRLjyUVZihuuKPbNkA
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/15/miami.murder.suicide/
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/01/family-of-seven.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090330/ts_alt_afp/uscrimeshootingsenior3rdlead_20090330214231

Why then do anti-feminists insist that women can be as violent as men?
Also, how does this gibe with the argument that women more than men are ruled by emotion?

Can anyone explain?
It figures some moron would try to equate this with abortion. Predictably lame and not even worth a response.
Eoghan your victim mentality astounds me. Tell me this, when will you men ever take responsibility for your crimes? You spout all this gibberish blaming women for men’s evils without a stitch of evidence to back it up. Man up for a change.
The rest of you men can’t even name something that happened in this decade, let alone in the last 3 months.

There’s no backing away from it. If you’re going to post that abortion is murder, that concludes that abortionists are mass murderers who are going unprosecuted by the law, right? So then you have no problem with gunning them down while they pray in Church like George Tiller, is that right?

I can go with individual chioce to kill , privacy and all that garbage, but why reach into my pocket for the funds . why dont all the baby killers unite and set up a fund for that. leave tax dollars out of it.
There are 17 states in which a woman can get an abortion … Taxpayer funded abortions. The day that family advocates and global warming a… Harsh words …
gotigers.blogspot.com/2007/12/taxpayer-funded-abortions.html
http://gotigers.blogspot.com/2007/12/taxpayer-funded-abortions.html

Guys, guys, this is a rhetorical question. We are quick to sentence to death a murder rapist coming from a bad environment, and quick to justify the mistakes of politicians who affect the life of millions.
I think I got it. There is no bigger crime in the US than trying to be a pacifist, despite all the anti abortion and "born again" drum beating.
Michael C, this is not a question about the Iraq war, however, the US declared war on Iraq ALSO violating a UN resolution. IOW, you agree with me.
Same answer to digitaldave…
Same answer to Christina J

In the criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more natural persons to break the law at some time in the future, and, in some cases, with at least one overt act in furtherance of that agreement. There is no limit on the number participating in the conspiracy and, in most countries, no requirement that any steps have been taken to put the plan into effect (compare attempts which require proximity to the full offence). For the purposes of concurrence, the actus reus is a continuing one and parties may join "the plot" later and incur joint liability and conspiracy can be charged where the co-conspirators have been acquitted and/or cannot be traced. Finally, repentance by one or more parties does not affect liability but may reduce their sentence.

Ok having said that doesn’t everyone who supports abortion be charged with Conpiracy to complete first degree homoicide?

That would be a 30 year sentence and possibly a death sentence and or life sentence without parole.

Going by what the Bible says, isn’t dusting, sweeping, or any kind of cleaning at all much worse than a single abortion?